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Only way things could have unfolded, i think, is just not a good enough answer. >> bret: well, here is some more answers and i will let you assess whether they are good enough or not. another long clip from the abc interview. let's take a listen. >> and are you committed to making sure that the troops stay until every american who wants to be out -- >> -- yes. >> is out? >> yes. >> how about our afghan allies? we have about 80,000 people -- >> -- well, that's not. >> is that too high. >> that's too high. >> how many. >> the estimate we are getting is between 55 and 60,000 folks total counting ...

Priced into the decision? >> yes. >> all troops are supposed to be out by august 31st. even if americans and our afghan allies are still trying to get out, they're going to leave? >> we're going to do everything in our power to get all americans out and our allies out. >> does that mean troops will stay beyond august 31st, if necessary? >> depends on where we are and whether we can get -- ramp these numbers up to 5,000 to 7,000 a day coming out. if that's the case, they'll all be out. >> because we've got like 10,000 to 15,000 americans in the country right now, right? and are you committed to...