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Controversy can help elevate an issue. and controversy can stir the pot and can buy time. and he never -- and if you think about his career, that's how -- that's been his philosophy. and that's how he's worked. so this is why conventional political advice, he would get it. he usually shuns it. because the conventional political advise, don't touch him. you need to wait. you need to wait until there's more cause. you need to create a process and you need to know who you're going to replace him with. all of those things. and he's seeing it as an opportunity that nope, i think i've been wronged h...

>> ari, to my other point, and we don't mean to split hairs here, can both be true? can the gist of the three-page letter be true that he went beyond his scope and his responsibilities, but can it also be true that has nothing at all to do with why he was fired? >> that could be true, as you put it. it could also be a contributing or mixed factor. so we don't know. i just think the letter leaves more questions than answers. and any lawyer can say it doesn't look like the normal process. this is an organization, a federal bureau of fbi and the department of justice that are interested eed and c...

Phillip, former deputy attorney general, be the new fbi director. but i believe every argument in there because they've been made to me by former prosecutors since last july. the fbi does not make decisions about prosecuting. he overstepped, and in that memo there is a rebuke to him, you ought to have admitted it by now. >> professor, you heard the man. it doesn't appear this is about the russian investigation, but he was mean to hillary clinton. do you buy it? >> absolutely not. if this was really the rational for firing comey, it seems like it should have happened earlier. i think we need to...

Letter from the justice department. starting with the date. >> yeah. the date of the letter suggs that -- suggests it arrived and the president immediately made this decision. there are things that -- not everyone is a bad, il moral person. but it strains credibility when you look at that letter to think that was a fulsome process of a deputy attorney general in the first twoeeks that involved policy. let's not forget that nowhere in that letter does really deal with the fact that there's an open internal watch dog investigation of the very issue that is purportedly the reason for the terminat...