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the framers of the constitution who divided power and authority, who separated it out, who had broken away from george the third, and declared him to be a tyrant. there was no way that they would've put in the hands of one person the authority to determine who is going to be president of the united states. >> was it your present impression that the vice president had directly conveyed his position on these issues to the president, not just to the world through your colleagues letter, but directly to president trump? >> many times. and he had been consistent and conveying his position...

Of the united states, did not do it is necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way, so the american people can see for themselves what happened. >> so we have a lot to cover, throughout the next hour. our special coverage of this week's public hearing for the january six committee continuing. after the break, when a list of potential pardons could reveal about possible criminal intent by the former president, plus the mystery of secret pocket pardons. also ahead, the scheme to rob magness of orders of a so-called election defense fund. a so-called election defense fund the claims that ...