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The committee members have left open the door a possibility to potentially another public hearing to be able to present this information in a more digestible way to the public. another thing that committee members are going to have to decide on is, what is going to have to happen to president trump and those house republicans, including the likely next speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy who ignored the committee subpoenas for testimony for documents? should they face possible criminal referrals to the justice department? these are all things that committee members are still considering, stil...

Numbers of people who are similarly situated in terms of the discussion she was having that you've mentioned. so it's very important for us to speak with her and, as i said, i hope she will agree to do so voluntarily. but i'm sure we'll contemplate a subpoena if she won't. >> you called it a victory for the rule of law when on friday a jury convicted former trump adviser steve bannon on two counts of criminal contempt of congress by refusing to cooperate with subpoenas from your committee. bannon indicates he plans to appeal the verdict. i'm wondering as to why so many people think bannon's te...

Cooperating and then a couple weeks ago it seems all of a sudden he decided he did not want to appear. i would suggest that we remember a couple of names, bill barr showed up and john dean showed up during watergate. they are white house counsel. it is to the office of the president. they are not a personal attorney. i don't know why pat cipollone is all of a sudden trying to exit stage right, but it's -- i know that he has critical firsthand evidence that the committee needs. >> the committee really wants to hear from him. we'll see if that happens. kaitlyn, there's previously unreleased vide...

Going forward. we know bannon is getting a trial this summer. what happens to meadows? >> this is where the justice department can act aggressively and garland can act aggressively. there can be a trial for meadows. these aren't very complicated questions. they were asked to cooperate, they're both refusing to do so. and the clock is ticking. clearly, the strategy is to run out the clock. the republicans hope to regain control of the house can dissolve this committee. where garland can act aggressively is to proceed with the criminal prosecution of meadows. you know, flynn is also fighting -- ...

>> thanks for having me. so as we continue to learn more about what the january 6 investigation is, in fact, uncovering, key trump allies facing subpoenas have adopted the former president's tried and true legal strategy -- run out the clock. according to "the new york times," trump loyalists like mark meadows, roger stone, they're hinging their legal hopes on a future republican congressional majority when new house leaders may simply drop their inquiries. "new york times" report and msnbc contributor katie benner. you're right that the democrats hope the justice department will continue it...