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Quite some time, we have a diverse democratic caucus, with robust views, and debate about various priorities have. i'm convinced we'll land this plan. >> are you one of the 40 who will vote against the infrastructure bill if leadership comes to you with only a framework? >> no, what i have said very clearly, victor, is i think we need to reach an agreement with respect to the framework and see some legislative text in terms of what we actually will be voting on, and i suspect that that's going to happen. >> so is that a yes? >> during the rules committee proceeding. >> there are three options ...

Confirmation, supreme court confirmation who is not on the committee. it's a committee proceeding and that is impeccable the supreme court precedent. >> shannon: what do you make of it? i'm continuing to hear that this is the right comparison, a grand jury proceeding which happens in secret. is that the right comparison? >> no because this is in the impeachment proceeding by the house of representatives. he full well knows -- he is a very able lawyer, responsibl spl counsel our officers of the executive branch and they're focusing on the crimes. whether there should be a referral to the house ...

Was arranging this meeting and his reaction to how much he loved the idea of getting some information about hillary clinton from russians. >> that's right. they'll go through that. they'll go through how this relationship developed between him and this child of a russian oligarch which helped the trumps set up this miss pageant. how many russian oligarchs does he know and has he worked with? have they been investing in trump tower? are they trying to do so now? there's potential there's ongoing efforts to influence the trump family financially. so there are many, many questions that they need ...

They'll go through that. they'll go through how this relationship developed between him and this child of a russian oligarch which helped the trumps set up this miss universe pageant. how many russian oligarchs does he know and has he worked with? have they been investing in trump tower? are they trying to do so now? there's potential there's ongoing efforts to influence the trump family financially. so there are many, many questions that they need to get through, some of which are financial. >> mieke, let me just ask you quickly since you've been involved in these kinds of discussions. if the...