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That can truly invoke the privilege is the president himself. he has to instruct and then tell the committee, ultimately, why he objects to the testimony. so i think something will happen. and we'll see how far the committee pushes. >> so michael, when steve bannon appeared before the committee, he actually conferred with the white house counsel during his testimony. do you think hicks will be more cooperative than bannon was? >> probably not. i think, though, that it's not inappropriate for a witness to confer with white house counsel, to ask whether or not the president is interested in asse...
House. and cnn legal analyst michael zeldin. robert mueller's former special assistant at department of justice. john, few people are closer to the trump family than hope hicks, without actually being a member of the family. what do you expect from her testimony? what does the house intelligence committee most want to learn from her? >> i would frankly be very surprised if she doesn't invoke some kind of privilege. and refuse to testify. if bannon is reluctant to do so, he really has no privilege. she's still employed, she's very close to the president, so she does theoretically have a privile...