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"trading places" when they're down on the commodities floor -- >> well, you've got the llcs got protected, the real estate, the oil pipelines. lonnie, do you agree that today is sort of -- i felt this way many times observing american politics. i remember paul ryan pushing for medicare part "d," which wasn't paid for, that we can't at least definitively put aside deficits as a talking point. like, they don't matter. the republicans are, i think, right about that substantively. but we should just not listen to anyone who votes for this bill, that talks about deficits. >> yeah, you know, fiscal ...

Economic effects wi, but it wil also have big political effects. and there was a sort of looting aspect to how this came down that they were so desperate to get this done and that had a lot to do with just the chaos and the craziness of this year of trump that it was just like, you know, kind of -- you know, in "trading places" when they're down on the commodities floor -- >> well, you've got the llcs got protected, the real estate, the oil pipelines. lonnie, do you agree that today is sort of -- i felt this way many times observing american politics. i remember paul ryan pushing for medicare ...