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white house with more on this, hi, lucas. lucas: it adds trillions to the national debt with $31 trillion and interest payments on the debt next year could one day approach the size of the defense budget. let that sink in. now here is house speaker kevin mccarthy adding more c -- conte. >> we've only paid $9 trillion in interest. so he's going -- took us 80 some years to happen in less than ten years. lucas: let's take a look at biden tax proposals which would add more to the national debt. 25% minimum tax on people with 10 -- 100 million plus dollars. 39.6 capital gains tax for peop...

Look at the cpi inflation, consumer price index up 4.6%. the hourly wages are not keeping up. people don't have enough money to buy the things they need, right? >> yeah, absolutely, anita. when you start looking at the president's multitrillion dollar budget, there's bigger concern there too because he wants to raise corporate rate to 28%, there are a million small businesses that file as corporations. they are automatically going to be hurt by that. corporate taxes is just like another commodity input at a company. they include that as part of their calculation when they come up with a price ...