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Propels by, you know, when congress comes back? >> i love the idea. but it's painful to see this again and again if i'm being honest. >> because this is what he did after park land. >> exactly what he did after parkland and what he's done again and again after every single one of these mass shootings that gets on tv and i think what we need to realize is we got to tell him that he can't keep doing that. right? if you're going to say you're going to do something, do it. donald trump says he's a man of his word. he says that, you know, he is someone that is able to get his job done and is able t...

It today, though. >> no, that's right. you heard the president say no, he didn't talk about universal background checks with the nra had wayne la pierre, our sources tell us otherwise but the president has certainly had several conversations with people over at the nra and does past, the president has changed his views based on those conversations and anderson, he really isn't flip-flopping on this issue. he's shape shifting. it's difficult to pin him down as we saw what occurred today when reporters talked about at the white house, he doesn't want to get pinned down on this issue and it's bec...

Again and again if i'm being honest. >> this is what he did after parkland. it's exactly what he did after parkland and it's zpaexactly wh he's done again and again. and i think what we need to realize is we got to tell him that he can't keep doing that. if you're going to say you're going to do something, do it. donald trump says he's a man of his word. he says that, you know, he is someone that is able to get his job done and able to take action and he's not controlled by anyone. prove it. prove that you're not controlled by the nra. that's what i would say to him. and realize that when you ...

Wrong. whether it's about a little thing like the health and future of the u.s. economy or gun legislation after two mass shootings, 12 days ago after el paso and dayton, the president would stand up to the nra and position that imposing tougher background checks for gun buyers would be the first step on a slippery slope, that's a common nra talking point. the president said he did not buy the slippery slope argument from the nra. >> you know, it's a slippery slope. they think you approve one thing and that leads to a lot of bad things. i don't agree with that. i think we can do meaningful, ve...

Exactly those terms saying remember the people that got me here feel very strongly about this. the second amendment and he said i do, too, and it's a slippery slope and i won't let that happen. he's not a great poker player. he doesn't hide his true motivati motivation, this is all about 2020. >> that's right, anderson. it's a slippery slope to 2020. if he goes against the nra, he is going to be eating into the base of support and when you talk to people inside this white house, close to the white house, people who talk to the president, they will remind you that gun rights enthusiasts are per...