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Do want to see radical change. they know it's not working. i think that neither party, as you just talked about, really made the case that they have the answers right now. >> you know, mark, it's interesting, because this is about a communication issue. biden's poll numbers are down, so people know something has gone wrong, as you noted, you know, he campaigned on being the empathetic, you know, the return to normal things and happiness and whatever it was they were campaigning on, and suddenly, though, americans are seeing kind of a collapse along the line of all the issues. yet, this one is ...

County authorities in el paso did open up for shelters to offer places to sleep for a lot of the migrants that have the documents. the issue in el paso is that a lot of the migrants are not asylum seekers. they have not turned themselves in to border patrol. they don't have a document. they tell me it's difficult to find a shelter that will take them. the only shelters helping this particular group of migrants are the catholic churches. then again, there's a church that said, we can take you there. they didn't know if they could get on the bus. it's a communication issue. it's a weather issue....

Saying this about changes of the cdc. it says from early failings on testing, the world changing flip-flop on masking the complete lack of evidence to damaging school guidance devised in conjunction with teachers unions, the cdc has been a disaster since the pandemic broke out. the organization has been so overwhelmed with politically motivated decision-making that many top employees have left the broken institution. that's one side of the argument tonight. >> and it's a good, strong argument to make. especially about the cdc. when you're talking about what has happened at the cdc and their re...

Definitely make sure that we would root view all training, have all training done again, and make sure the people do a little soul searching. i've been through this training myself multiple times. you go in and you go out. it's a little perplexed thing as to why that didn't happen. >> let me ask you about this flow of communication issue, because, when i gather, as a lay person that has been watching all of this, is that there was a breakdown of communication essentially of overlapping entities. you've got the local police department, you've got the -- whomever, if it was border protection or ...

Not useful. >> cheryl, i want to read to you and share with our viewers some active shooter guidelines from the state of texas. this is in the official guide book. it says, quote, an officer's first priority is to move in and confront the attacker. this may include bypassing the injured and not responding to cries for help from children. i'm wondering where exactly you think the breakdown was? was there, perhaps, negligence by the officers outside? was there lack of awareness that there were kids calling 911? is this a communication issue? in other words, specifically what needs to be adjusted...