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Building more capacity. it has highlighted this reality, this gap america has, so it is important not only to say we are still with you, taiwan, but in order to start to build out semiconductors here, understand manufacturing, how can we go off that learning curve faster? the relationship with taiwan will be apsley imperative in the states. while we are not there, ron, that relation with china, albeit at a very low point, is crucially important, and joe biden spent two and a half hours just last week trying to keep the channels of communication open, which is why the white house were slightly ...

Communication open. so, no, leading up to the phone call did we find the rhetoric coming out of the chinese side helpful? no, and we said that. today was a good, constructive, candid conversation that lasted a while, and it covered an awful lot of ground in that conversation. this is one of the most consequential bilateral relationships in the world. the president believes strongly that being able to have open lines of communication even -- perhaps even especially on issues where there's tension in the relationship will do a lot to help keep those tensions at a moderate and reasonable level. >...

That if that trip gets cancelled, it will look like they backed us in to a corner and you and the pentagon put -- tamped it down and said don't go. >> this is a very important relationship. one of the most consequential in the world, martha. there's a lot inside that relationship. things that we agree on, things that we know we can work on like climate change, like terrorism and things where we don't see eye to eye, whether it's unfair trade practices, economic competition, certainly their aggressive behavior in the indopacific as secretary austin alluded to. that's why it's important to have ...

Prenuptial agreements are important for several reasons, with the most pressing one being that no one can predict the future.

Conducted against them in russia by the ukrainians. they want to deconflict this from anything that expands into a larger war. bottom line, it is a good thing that our outstanding secretary of defense is talking to his counterpart. as frustrated as we all are with vladimir putin, his actions and war crimes, we have got to keep those channels of communication open. that is how we avoid turning this into a much larger war. >> admiral, as always, i really appreciate you coming to the sunday show, thank you. >> thanks jonathan. >> still to come on the sunday show there is a new playbook for how we...