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Hesitant what is a way to talk to them -- not the refusers. not the republicans who are like trump is my god, i'm never getting the vaccine. but people in our communities who are nervous about it, what do you say to tem? >> everyone has their own whys and why notes. i ask them what is the reason that makes you concerned, what have you heard, where did you get this information from? that's the other thing. people are getting information from unreliable sources. they're getting information from their hair stylist, their barber. they're not getting it from the public health professionals, from ph...

They can claim to be the rulers of a functioning country. >> thank you so much. joining us now is william cohen from the clinton administration and former senator from maine. thank you for being with us. >> we have seen this extraordinary evacuation being praised by the president and a lot of criticism from all sides. white house chief of staff ron clain last night toldous msnbc he doesn't know if the u.s. will ever recognize the taliban. the cia have been securing security there, what relationship should we have with the taliban going forward? >> i think the relationship should be one very ar...

More students and their families still stuck in afghanistan. is that right? >> yes, that's correct. so initially we had learned that we had about 24 students with their families stuck in afghanistan. they traveled there this summer to visit family and friends and had return plane tickets and then, as you would know, got stuck. the interesting part is that our family and community engagement office, we have 17 liaisons throughout our school district, and two of those liaisons have been in touch with those students. so we've had a great line of communication open. the students initially contacte...

Office, we have 17 liaisons throughout our school district, and two of those liaisons have been in touch with those students. so we've had a great line of communication open. the students initially contacted their liaisons on or about august 16, and informed them, please hold our spots in our classrooms, we don't think we're going to be back for the start of school but we don't want to lose our spaces. and so thankfully that communication has allowed us to reach out to congressman isa's office who has helped us with these students. >> now with this new security warping, it is increasingly dang...

>> requiring us to keep the lines of communication open. we have checkpoints beyond the airport and was we have seen is this coordination has worked well in terms of allowing access and flow to continue. laura: despite spending two decades trying to build a functioning afghan government the state department was shocked when afghan president fled the country leaving us holding the bag. not that secretary of state tony blinken even remembers who that is. >> go back a week. i was on the phone with president karzai the day before when he was telling me his intent to fight to the death, next day he...