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and courtney, you have some new reporting about how the taliban worked with the u.s. at least in one instance, if not more, to get americans out. with the taliban celebrating and having mock coffins and a mock funeral with nato and u.s. flags, but this was a different instance. talk us through it. as you well know, we had many cases and many reports over the course of this evacuation mission of the taliban mistreating people at checkpoint, particularly afghan citizens and beating them in some cases, but what we are learning now, defense officials are speaking about the areas where the taliban are cooperating with the u.s. on the ground there. we knew there was a coordination and we didn t know about the extent until now. what would happen is american citizens would get a text message telling them to go to a couple of different locations and one is the ministry of the ....
In a position it call upon us, and we don t answer the phone anymore. the counter argument, of course, is that there are as many as 2,000, maybe more as general mckenzie said isis-k fighters released from the prisons from the taliban. the taliban acknowledging that that was a big mistake. so there are those terrorist, plus the haqqani network. kalil haqqani with a bounty on his head by the state department and wanted by the fbi is now in charge of security in kabul for the taliban. the overlapping of these terror groups creates an unholy stew there in afghanistan, and secretary panetta just told me yesterday that he doesn t think we ve made afghanistan safe from becoming another haven for terrorist as the president claims and as was the original goal after 9/11. i agree. i think that more terrorists ....
Together and all be one pot of toxic terrorism. that s a possibility, but if the taliban hopes to have any opportunity to govern as a as a society which is probably very unlikely since they re still made up of lots of provinces and warlords and they don t want any centralized government as such, so it depends on what kind of government the taliban is going to formulate, but i still believe in my heart of heart, they re going to need us, and if they need us we want something very much in return. we want our citizens out, passport holders and those who are special immigrant visa holders and to the extent we don t, then the money will never be forthcoming and any intelligence they need for their own safety, and i think they re ....
Russia has its own muslim population. they don t want to see a terrorist state on its border either. not just the united states. we have a real interest in making sure that afghanistan doesn t become a launching pad for sending terrorists into our country as bin laden did, but we are not in this alone. our allies joined us. they knew we are not in alone, so i think there are a lot of issues here with other countries that can be helpful. in the meantime, we have to dedicate ourselves. president biden said they ll never be forgotten. we won t forgive the taliban, but we have to get them out, and i think we have enough people in the country, in the congress, in our private sector, former soldiers who have networks that we can call upon and send the message very clearly to the taliban. you want to take power? you re in power? good luck because you won t be able to survive if you don t have the kind of competence and the kind of intelligence and the ....