independence 12 years ago. 0ur religion editor aleem maqbool is travelling with the papal party, and sent this report from the capital, juba. it's his 40th foreign trip as pope, but it's a visit like no other he's ever had before. he's previously postponed this because of ill health and mobility issues, but was always clear, in spite of a reduced international schedule, there was one country he was sure to go — south sudan. but what makes this visit different is that for the first time on a foreign trip, he's accompanied by the leaders of other global christian denominations. the moderator of the church of scotland and the archbishop of canterbury are injuba, too. "at last, i am here," said
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from the capitaljuba. it's his 40th foreign trip as pope, but it's a visit like no other he's ever had before. he's previously postponed this because of ill health and mobility issues, but was always clear, in spite of a reduced international schedule, there was one country he was sure to go — south sudan. but what makes this visit different is that for the first time on a foreign trip, he's accompanied by the leaders of other global christian denominations. the moderator of the church of scotland and the archbishop of canterbury are injuba, too. "at last, i am here," said pope francis told a crowd of displaced people, "together with my brothers on this pilgrimage of peace." since independence in 2011, south sudan slipped quickly into conflict. it's along tribal and not religious lines,
trial. so it just creates side issues for the prosecutors that they shouldn't have to deal with. so i don't love that. but to the extent it caused open back to think twice about bringing charges and may be reconsidering charges, then maybe it will have served a purpose. agitating for bringing the former president to justice. >> and barb, island weisselberg was called to testify against trump when his -- will cooperate now? >> i don't, know it's worth trying but i don't know that he will. he had a chance certainly to do that before in the case involving the tax fraud. and allen weisselberg to testify against the trump organization. but what he said at the time was he did not have any incriminating information about donald trump. maybe he, did maybe he didn't, maybe was just being loyal to his boss. but i suppose to the extent he is facing additional present time, that could be a more
of either perjury or in the case of weisselberg tax fraud is what you're going to get as the witnesses against the person. and i think the evidence has been pretty strong and pretty credible. it's hard to believe that story daniels seems more credible than trump. but that's how it appears to me. thank >> speaking of the issue of credibility, barb, what do you make of pomerantz writing this book now? and also what do you make of the timing of its release? >> somebody came up through the justice department as i did, writing a book about a pending investigation is very poor form. and i think it threatens to undermine the case itself when you reveal what is going on behind the scenes and even some of the evidence. it can make it more difficult for prosecutors to bring that case and it can give a heads up to the defense. i can imagine that there will be issues from the book that will even be raised at the
firefighters and equipment. interior minister carolina toha believes climate change is making the country increasingly vulnerable to wildfires. the pope, the archbishop of canterbury and the moderator of the church of scotland are on a historic three day visit to south sudan. they've called it a pilgrimage of peace, to a country where more than 400,000 people have been killed in violence since independence 12 years ago. our religion editor aleem maqbool is travelling with the papal party and sent this report from the capital, juba. it's his 40th foreign trip as pope, but it's a visit like no other he's ever had before. he's previously postponed this because of ill health and mobility issues, but was always clear, in spite of a reduced international schedule, there was one country he was sure to go — south sudan. but what makes this visit
to cancel the trip. everything was still playing out. and at this point, the united states is quite legitimately and lawfully downed this chinese property. i would love to see secretary blinken bringing it back after it's been examined or just have the conversation while it is in u.s. possession to say, what are you up to? this is, of course, an embarrassment to the chinese government and to xi jinping. it is a global embarrassment. it is a good time the talk. there is a little high ground the united states has. we do have to keep the big picture in mind. this is a $600 billion trade relationship. we are the two biggest car been emitters on the planet. there is a whole range of issues that we have to keep a dialogue about. whether we'll compete or
cooperate. and the problem is something like this, if it is allowed to cut off the dialogue, then we're going to see regression on all these other issues thatt are of great concerns to the chinese and americans and everyone. there's a whole list of things they need to figure out how to at least co-exist or cooperate on. >> yeah. well, china and tuesday are communicating by other means, you would say. thank you very much for your time. really appreciate it. >> once the balloon is recovered, if it is recovered, what might the u.s. be able to learn from it? that's next. mind. it's simple. anything else i c can help you with? like w what? visionworks. see the differerence.
taylor greene's vote? there is no hope for this? where do things stand on that effort for you? >> she voted against me. she voted against me. >> i've gotta say, i don't know -- >> but she said she agreed with me. i thought we were vibe-ing, you know? she said she agreed with me. she also said that there needed to be an investigation as it relates to the conditions in jail and prisons and i agree with that. now, granted, her concern was for january 6th people versus the issues overall when it comes to -- >> she thinks the january fixed insurrection is civil rights being trampled on. >> correct. so i was like, okay, we should get to the subcommittee and then we can explore these things. but i don't know really what
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