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I don't see any big issue here relative to jared. >> even with an adversary, somebody that at the time our own intelligence community had had said this was a country that had infiltrated our election. did this show good judgment? >> well, you know, it was before the government was in place during the transition period i think from what i understand. i think anytime you can open lines of communication with anyone whether they're good friends or not so good friends is a smart thing to do. >> had you ever in your lifetime of government service both in the military and outside of it, had you ever ...

Relative to jared. >> even with an adversary -- somebody that was at the time our own intelligence community had collectively said this was a country that infiltrated our election. did this show good judgment? >> well, you know, it was before the government was in place, during the transition period i think, from what i understand. and i think any time you can open lines of communication with anyone whether they're good friends or not so good friends is a smart thing to do. >> had you ever in your lifetime of government service both in the military and outside of it, had you ever used another ...

Open lines of communication with anyone, whether they're good friends or not so good friends, is a smart thing to do. >> had you ever in your lifetime of government service both in the military and outside of it, had you ever used another government's communications facility though, the idea of sort of going around american communications? >> well, no, but i didn't have to. i mean, in my previous life, we wouldn't do that kind of thing, but, you know,better way to put it, not politics but the kind of interaction here in washington, there's a lot of ways to communicate with people. >> intellige...

The military and outside of it, had you ever used another government's communications facility though, the idea of sort of going around american communications? >> well, no, but i didn't have to. i mean, in my previous life, we wouldn't do that kind of thing, but you know, politics being what they are, not a better way to put it, not politics but the kind of interaction here in washington, there's a lot of ways to communicate with people. >> intelligence sharing is something that's extraordinarily important to your job. if you get to the point where you now have our own intelligence community ...