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Another level. >> bill: i hear she is going to get the role in rocky horror picture two did you see it? >> no. i didn't all these people back in the 70s. no, no not my style. >> bill: joe biden wants the jobs bill passed obviously. he says if you pass it you will be having no more cops on the street and more protection for the american people that's why we need it. roll the tape. >> let me tell you, it's not temporary when that 911 call comes in the woman is being raped, the cop shows up in time to prevent the rape. it's not temporary to that woman. it's not temporary to the guy whose store is...

>> bill: how do you do that? >> sometimes have you got to take it. >> bill: wrap it around his throat? what's the gumption? >> you have got to take it and show some strength. you say, you know what? finish your point and then i will finish mine. >> bill: that's what he is trying to do. >> don't stand there and beg anderson cooper to help you. i thought it was good. i enjoyed the debate. >> bill: i'm sure that's why cooper let it go because it was good tv. i have to disagree with you. i think romney did it the right way there. if it were me, i would have said listen, anderson, are you going to ...

Don't like capitalism. >> that i don't agree with. >> bill: didn't you read the new yorker magazine? peace piece where they took the survey? didn't you see doug schoen's poll 30% of the occupiers will use violence to get what they want? come on, that's the data. >> if you go down there, there is a core of people that would fit that description. there is -- the people that started the thing. the thing that since then has grown. and what's interesting about it is that it is not an articulation. it's an expression. it's grown with people who share that feeling. >> no. i don't see it i think they ...

Some of them i guess genuinely i am some you want to bang their heads together some across the street from the world trade center the u.s. government is more hateful than al qaeda it gets you a little nuts. then you turn around and meet a guy who is an iron worker or meet a kid who has a masters of psychology and mountain of college bills and can't find a job and very hard not to have some difficulty. >> bill: i'm glad you are an honest guy. your column is fairly sympathetic to these people. are you sympathetic to the tea party protesters? >> well, some of them, sure. i mean i think that there...

Understands it and wants the tax code revised. but 9-9-9 can be improved upon. it's a good start, however. for the record, cain would also knock out most tax deductions leaving an only charitable contributions. the 18.4% federal gasoline tax would also be kept by cain along with taxes on booze, tobacco, guns, phone service and other stuff. as always, you can decide the worthiness of herman cain's plan. now, the debate last night was the liveliest yet, a good thing. and return to the fray. governor took a bold fresh approach. be interesting to see if the folks respond to it in a positive or neg...