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Insurance companies to cross state lines. allow that to be something you give to conservatives. there's a lot of conservative proposals not put in this because those will be the carrots given to the conservative wing of the party to ultimately get the votes needed. >> paul begala, democratic strategist. from a communications standpoint if you have conservatives calling this obamacare lite, how do you beat back that narrative? >> as they move to the right, kayleigh is almost certainly correct this will move to the right. thn they'll lose votes in the middle. a lot of senate republicans who are ...

Vice president before he went on tv shows. good for trump. good for president trump. we should be forthcoming on the questions. jeff sessions said, look, maybe this answer could have been more complete. i'm going to recuse myself. these are appropriate steps. i think it's wrong for people to say, just because has there been mishandling from communications standpoint? of course. there's rookie mistakes. i totally agree with that. it's unfair to take the next leap that trump world worked in collaboration. >> what you are not going to deet get here is an accusation. matt, thank you. it's more tha...

Illegally it's civil offense, not criminal. and no human being can be illegal. we as candidates for this position need to understand that we can't just be reactive from messaging but proactive. and that's something we've failed to do and we need to do it better. whether it's connecting with voters, heart first, whether it's using new tools from communications standpoint, and whether it is clarifying and holding the media accountable when they get the story wrong about democrats and about the american people, we need to be the ones to speak up. >> general with the la-- jehmu greene with the las...

Right to let go anyone that he feels as though is talking off the record about the interworkings of the white house. that is nothing new and quite frankly i'm surprised that staffer would talk off the record or in a private setting about the dysfunctionalty going on in the white house. that's frankly unsubordinate. but it reconfirms a lot of republicans and democrats fears that the president is not in control of his own narrative. and the sad part about this is from the communications standpoint he can control the narrative. he's actually very good at controlling the narrative when he's able t...

Second. what do people who voted for trump that are ambivalent about trump, what about people who didn't vote for trump -- in other words, what about the majority of the country? >> clearly this was his attempt to point the finger at the media as the bad guy. and not him or his administration. from the standpoint, from a communications standpoint, i think it's not a grand idea to attack the media and call them fake news when you're pointing out -- today, one of the key points was the leaks are real, the reporting is fake. that clearly doesn't make sense. it doesn't -- it defies reality. with a...