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In the campaign to benefit trump. we learned something from hope hicks' testimony about what was going on at that time which was something we did not know before. again, listen closely. a couple of things we knew about and didn't know they went together. you will see what i mean. question from committee staff. when did you first become aware of the "access hollywood" tape? about an hour before it was meat public. question, what was your reaction to it? my rekz was it was a friday afternoon and i was hoping to see my family and that was not happening. question, did you have any other reactions?...

But we didn't know they went together. anyway, you'll see what i mean. question from committee staff. when did you first become aware of the "access hollywood" tape? answer, about an hour before it was made public. question, what was your reaction to it? honestly, my reaction was it was a friday afternoon and i was hoping to get home to see my family for the first time in a few months and that wasn't happening. question, did you have any other reactions? answer, look, i obviously knew it was going to be a challenge from a communications standpoint. did you discuss it with mr. trump? i did, yes...

He has great quotes talking about the economic damage. it stands to reason if you believe, bill, that these tariffs, whether it's 25% on china, tariffs on mexico that the u.s. consumer pays all of it. that no one else pays for it except the u.s. consumer? why did we ship these jobs off in the first place. you can't ship off the jobs because you say are you trying to lower costs on behalf of the american consumer and say prices will go up 25% and you can absorb it. i'm hoping throughout this process big business also learns that maybe when it comes down to issues like this, they should play bal...

Think this is a golden opportunity for the republican party in 2020 because they will be running against a party that could be running for the largest expansion of the federal government in u.s. history. certainly since the great society and possibly since the new deal. and they think that's not a winning message. >> dana: it's is strange because of the way, from a communications standpoint, as i sometimes look at things. the way it was rolled out. new congress woman alexandria cortez joining up with a veteran in the senate. they just flopped this thing out there. i don't think they realized t...

Arguing policy, i'm arguing tactics. lawrence lawrence they tried it before and it didn't get done. the president offered how many? 1.8. they still turned it down. they tried that tactic before. they didn't get it passed. it's going to go either the wall or nothing. the president is going to take that hard line. >> dana: one on the communications standpoint. the president and the democrats are in impasse. how do you break an impasse. he is the one that can do something different. i think he needs to show, not tell or show not tweet. so i would let other people do the talking for me. so he has ...