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But we have to wonder first of all why did the fbi, the cia, and the intelligence community object to jared kushner getting a security clearance? what were their concerns? why did the president overrule those concerns, and why did the president lie about it? if the president simply said they objected. he's my son-in-law, i trust him. i'm doing it anyway, but the president lied to the american people. the reason this matters is because if there's a reason jared kushner should not have a security clearance because he could be compromised, that he was seeking capital to deal with his debt, that h...

Clearance. it doesn't make it right, but he has the right as president. seems he lied about it. but beyond the lying, because that's a low bar with this president, why does this matter to you in particular that it's going to require hearings? >> well, it matters to all of us. it matters to the safety and security of the american people. obviously the president has the legal right to direct someone to receive a security clearance. there's no question about that. but we have to wonder first of all why did the fbi, the cia, and the intelligence community object to jared kushner getting a security...

On irrelevant, misstatement rumor, to try to do the work of damaging the fbi in order ultimately to put pressure on rosenstein and to put pressure on the mueller investigation, a lot of icons of republican national security are calling this the effort what it is, which is designed to create chaos and deeply, deeply partner. >> let me ask you specifically on that point. look, if this memo says things about the fbi or the investigation that are untrue, i can understand why the fbi and the intelligence community object to that. but if the concern was sources and methods and revealing sensitive in...