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He just didn't get that home state bump. >> okay, thanks so much for that. always great to have you on, john. let's go to irvine grandolph. what's the community thinking about hud. an odd pick for a neurosurgeon. >> it is an odd pick. you would think that carson would be a better pick for someone like surgeon general. or if you're going to run the department of health -- >> and human services. >> something he has -- human services, something he has related experience in, as opposed to housing, which the only thing he knows of, the child lived at one point in public housing. well, i went to pub...

Service to do. it's the holidays, nobody wants to be sitting in judgment under these circumstances, especially at this time of year. but a decision reached. >> cynthia, stand by one moment. i want to bring in mike bello, deputy city editor at "the boston globe" newspaper. mike joins us by phone. mike, was this expected? what was the community thinking might happen when this jury ultimately came back? >> you know, i don't think there was any surprise at this verdict. the jury came back quickly after deliberating 11 hours over two days. it was all about the question of insanity. was philip chism...

I think you're right, the mt. be asked about that. he is contradicting himself and tying nims knots. this happens in a coverup. >> tell the truth. it's easier to memorize. >> bret: we hear from the vice president to put blame on the intelligence community. you hear from dianne feinstein saying jim clapper put out statements. talking points. you hear the assessment evolve and you hear from the president saying i called it an act of terror on day one. what is the intelligence community thinking? >> they tried to throw hillary under the bus but she has resources including her husband and other pe...