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Weld. different kinds of welding, what you can expect to make? do you have a pretty secure job path ahead of you? >> yeah. look. it's hard to be glib and just tell you. i mean, i can tell you what the statistics say but the truth is, you know, there is a geographical component, you know, a welder in newport news is going to do very different than a weldner san diego and a welder up in north dakota right now basically write his or her own ticket. it depends on where you are willing to go but my foundation has trained kids to weld who have gone through maybe an 18 month certification program. i ...

Weld. different kinds of welding, what you can expect to make? do you have a pretty secure job path ahead of you? >> yeah. look. it's hard to be glib and just tell you. i mean, i can tell you what the statistics say but the truth is, you know, there is a geographical component, you know, a welder in newport news is going to do very different than a weldner san diego and a welder up in north dakota right now basically write his or her own ticket. it depends on where you are willing to go but my foundation has trained kids to weld who have gone through maybe an 18 month certification program. i ...

Much i appreciate that, and i came to washington not because i wanted to be secretary of education, that was not my lifelong ambition. i simply wanted to be part of president obama's team, and i can't tell you how proud i've been to have the chance to serve with him, and to learn from him, his values, his commitment to helping those who need the most help. every hard decision, reverend, every hard decision having to do with education he simply said what's the right thing to do for children, and he would handle the politics. >> what's next for arne duncan? >> it's bittersweet, really sad to lea...