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>> yeah. >> he said those are the areas where the residents are most in danger. those are the residents where he said we're not going to send it to areas that don't have high crime. and so he explained it that way. he was data driven. so i understand that argument. i don't understand if you're data driven why you back down, why suddenly, david, it doesn't matter if that's what drove you to that argument even if it was unpopular the second you jump in a presidential race. >> it again afghanistan with an m.i.t. professor, mike bloomberg and ray kelly is then police commissioner enhanced it and t...

Cities? >> you are absolutely right. crime is down nationwide according to the brennan center analysis. and as you mentioned about 2.7% nationwide. and one of the reasons we think that crime is down across the nation in the 30 cities that we analysted in our analysis is because of many factors, including inflation, including unemployment rates, including this economic factors. plus the addition of changing policing tactics that we saw in the 1990s and comp stat. and in new york city we seen incredible decrease in violent crime. in fact, on track this year in new york to see less than 300 murde...

And that is the problem that we see in baltimore, because we see these problems all over the country and nothing is working, because nobody's talking to each other. just implementing these policies without actually getting down on the ground looking at someone in their face going to families going into lower income housing areas and allowing other people to feel trust, and nothing seems to be working, so that's my only solution at this point. >> jose i would add on to that we've had a lot of talk about "the wire," which is a show based on real issues in baltimore. one of the real issues that i...