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>> >> it is a rate of over 100% when you get to sense, it is more than that and cory booker is right about one thing. europe has been trying this wealth tax, it doesn't work. people drive incentives, how the real world, what they do with the money, not sitting on a pile, keeping away from elizabeth warren and they will find incentives of ways to avoid that so it is not work. >> these are comparison numbers between the rnc and the dnc. we look at the numbers and you see a distinct difference. what do those numbers tell you about where people want the country to go? >> it is telling and said tha...

Wisconsin and that may be also why we see, although we don't have the good comparison numbers, it's just a hunch that i have that wisconsin also, we've seen clinton has a lead but it's not nearly the lead that she should have if we think there would be a big national swing towards the democrats. >> let me make sure i've got it for the takeaway. early signs for donald trump that are good. iowa, ohio, and wisconsin. early signs that support hillary clinton. virginia, north carolina, and florida. am i right in saying that that could represent a realignment of the parties? >> yeah. that's interest...

We have more from the gop forum in mackinac, michigan. >> reporter: poppy, this poll shows how much the debate has really shaken up the race, but besides who's up and who's down, what's most striking is when you compare it to what the field looked like just one month ago, put up those comparison numbers for you now. as you see, donald trump, he is still the front-runner, but he's on a downward slope sliding eight points. support slipping there, too, for ben carson who lost five percentage points. compare that to carly fiorina leaping up 12 percentage points. that's a huge number really in just...

Economic model japan had in place for almost 25 years now. >> jamie: are you saying we won't be greece? >> i don't expect we'll be greece. we have the problem of washington writing hot checks and we have to have growth to pay those checks, but we have a $16 trillion economy. so i think the message i have for you today, the economic news probably isn't as bad as it reads when you look at it every day. >> jamie: we appreciate you weighing in on it. last question -- how long does a rally like that have to last in order to see the unemployment numbers change in the right direction? >> we're in a d...

Comparison numbers, it's just a hunch that we have that wisconsin also we've seen clinton has a lead but it's not nearly the lead that she should have if we were thinking that there was going to be this big national swing towards the democrats. >> let me make sure we've got it for the take away. early signs for donald trump that are good, iowa, ohio and wisconsin. early signs that support hillary clinton, virginia, north carolina and florida. am i right in saying that that could represent a realignment of the parties? >> yeah. that's interesting, right? so why is it why sit that one part of th...