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They may look down at him. what's the story? why don't democrats think he's going to run? >> actually, i think democrats would be delighted donald trump ran. it's hard to take him seriously and he sucks up the oxygen for more serious candidates. >> do you think obama would like to stand on a stage 7 or 8 feet from him on three or four national debates for 90 minutes? would he really like to risk trash talk. he has no super ego, just an ego. he says what he thinks, he doesn't worry about it, maybe that's why he's got $7 billion. he doesn't care if somebody likes him. >> that's the point. he say...

They don't want him to run and afraid of him, may look down on him. what's the story? why don't democrats think he's going to run? >> well, actually -- >> i think he is going to run. >> i think they would be delighted if donald rump ran. it's hard to take him seriously. he sucks up the oxygen for more serious candidates. >> do you think obama would like to stand on a stage seven or eight from him? he'd like to risk trash talk? he has no super ego. he has an ego. doesn't sit and worry about it. maybe that's why he has $7 billion. maybe somebody won't like me. he doesn't care! >> that's the poin...