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Experience of the affordable care act, they're not going to say well my governor did a great job. they are being directly aided by the federal government. so i wonder if conservatives are not undermining their own argument for smaller government conservatism by letting the federal government take care of people, federal. >> if you set up the exchanges well and people have a good experience of it then they're going to be popular, and if you don't that. >> won't be. >> yeah, there is a lot of good for people in the law. coverage under age 26 for kids, the prevention benefits i think over 30 mill...

Federal government take care of people. >> this is good policies, good politics, inso far as if you set up the exchanges well, then they're going to be popular, and if you don't, they won't be. >> yeah, therest a lot of good for people in the law. coverage under age 26 for kids, the prevention benefits, i think over 30 million people have used these now. insurance companies under much more restrictions to reduce their overhead costs. but i'd say the biggest vulnerability should be what you said, chris. it has to do with the exchanges. these are really difficult to set up. new information syste...