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Somehow, to sign the checks reimbursing him, but they wanted to keep it, remember, in this small circle. it's basically at this point, weisselberg, trump, and cohen. and, you know, those -- at that time to trump, are trusted soldiers. >> right. >> cohen's gone now and weisselberg, you know, he's going to get immunity and he's not the kind i think willing to take a bullet at age 71 for the president. >> this goes to show that from the beginning, this was not your standard political operation, right? this wasn't operating the way any other white house would have operated. it was operating like a...

And with the president writing checks. >> of dubious legality, we should also note. or of dubious compliance, let's just say. >> sure. >> not real compliance nerds up in there. >> this is not what was happening in the obama white house. >> no! >> for sure. >> i know that for a fact, yes. >> so again, it's all a little sopranos-ish, i mean, this is not business as usual. >> but then the question becomes like, what's the bar, right, for what that trespass means in a sort of constitutional sense and a criminal sense. in a criminal sense, the southern district has already implicated the president ...