started coming down my cheeks, and i m watching this scene unfold, just stood there in stunned silence. what is this? what has america become? i just remember that scene. it burned into my memory. i m emotional right now as i talk about it. you know, i felt absolute rage. tim saw this as an act of war against the people. the rules of engagement if not written down are defined by the acts of the aggressor. now, what rules of engagement would you interpret in examining waco? kids are fair game? women are fair game? i think that that was the final moment for mcveigh, and he says so himself, right? after waco, now is the time for action, right? now we re going operational. many people are struggling with issues related to mental health.
it was a clash between federal law enforcement mite and withdrawn people who were fiercely protective of their community. you feel a bond with this community. the bond is they re fellow gun owners and believe in gun rights and their fellow survivalists and freedom lovers. when do you draw the line and say enough is enough? somebody has to send a message to say, you can t go any further. and mcveigh got in his little junk car and drove to waco, texas, to find out what was going on. michelle roush, a college newspaper reporter at the time, was at the branch davidian compound outside waco to investigate the story. it wasn t until one year after the oklahoma city bombing that she realized the man she interviewed on the hood of his car was none other than timothy
when guns are outlawed, i will become an outlaw, and it was at that point when i was fully intent on my life that i was going to live outside the law. he started to believe that our government was going to come into people s homes and take their guns away, and this scared the hell out of tim mcvai. on february 28th, 1993, outside the central texas town of waco, many in the patriot movement believed the spark to that next war is ignited. you can t point guns in the direction of my wives and kids. damn it, i ll meet you at the door anytime. in an effort to take david koresh into custody, federal agents raid his compound, and a massive fire fight breaks out. six davidians and four atf agents were killed, and that started the 51-day standoff.
what has america become? i just remember that scene. it burned into my memory. i m emotional as i talk about it. you know, i felt absolute rage. tim saw this as an act of war against the people. it was the bully again, this time the horns were on the head of the federal government. the rules of engagement, if not written down, are defined by the actions of an aggressor. okay? now, what rules of engagement would you interpret in examining waco? kids are fair game? women are fair game? i think that that was the final moment for mcveigh, and he says so himself, right? after waco, now is the time for action, right? now we re going operational. with oklahoma city being a counterattack, i was only fighting by the rules of engagement introduced by the aggressor. waco started this war. hopefully oklahoma would end it.
and at this point, mcveigh s thinking to himself, i still need terry nichols to help me build the bomb. i was the principal planner for this. i did manipulate people, including terry nichols. on the way back from dropping off the getaway car in oklahoma city, nichols drives mcveigh to the dreamland motel in junction city, kansas, a short distance from his own home. two days later, mcveigh hitches a ride to elliott s auto shop and rents the ryder truck that will act as the vessel for the bomb. all the pieces are in place and ready to go. mcveigh also settles on a specific date for the bombing. the two most significant events in the history that occurred on april 19th, to me, was not just one, waco, but, number two, was the shot heard around the world, april 19th, 1775, the spark that started the american revolution.