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Has been using both. >> when you look at, you know, what's happening in the days immediately before this, we're still kind of searching around the motive that was introduced. but not laid out in the smoking gun way. you've got alex murdaugh's wife staying at the beach house, which i think is your families. not living with her at home. you've got the sun that finds the computer bag with a bag full of hundreds of pills. and his mind, you know, you may have if my wife goes south on me, and we end up in a divorce proceeding, and she's gonna testify as to what she knows, which is heard, what she's ...

Tell him he would go visit his mom. he called other people to try to basically lay out alibis all along the way. >> very much like we discussed with the two guns. why make it appear as to people? look at those two elements. his own son, the murder victim, and may have inadvertently solved the case with that piece of video. and his wife who, they were in the throes of having a very difficult time, the son had found the pills and the computer bag. his 60,000 dollar a week moxie have it. the wife was saying this is a betrayal. there were financial people closing in on these other frauds where, if...

And then you come out. and it was during covid, and so maggie wasn't allowed to come into the doctor's office, and so she sat in the car, and i had left pills in the computer bag and sitting out there bored i guess she started looking at my computer and found them in the computer bag, so she found those pills. >> so she obviously told paul and paul texted you about finding those pills. that's correct. >> in may of 2021. that's correct. >> and you've heard your sister-in-law testify that maggie called him the little detective about the pills. you heard that in this courtroom? >> i did hear ...

In for a couple of hours and it is during covid, and maggie was not allowed to come into the doctor's office and so she sat in the car and i had left pills in the computer bag and sitting out there bored, i guess she started to look at my computer and found them in the computer bag. so she found those pills. >> all right. and so, she obviously told paul, and paul texted you, correct? about finding those pills. >> that is correct. >> in may of 2021. >> that is correct. >> and you heard your sister-in-law marian testify that she called him the little testify about finding the pills. >> i did hea...

>> all right. and what was the discussion after that? >> i can't remember exactly what it was but it was about that i had eye surgery -- i don't know what day it was. days before that. the day maggie found them maggie drove me to the doctor for me to have my cataract removed, whatever they call that surgery, i can't remember. i had a cataract taken out. out patient. you come in for a couple of hours and you come out. it was during covid and so maggie wasn't allowed to come into the doctor's office and so she sat in the car and i had left pills in the computer bag and sitting out there bored, i...