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This is forensic information. he is manipulating. he manipulated our election. and now he's manipulating our politics. the fact they didn't expel any american diplomats from moscow and he durns around and says trump is just the man we can deal with this is just extraordinary and in my many, many years working in national security i've never seen anything like this. and the fact that trump has not reacted is incredible. this fbi information is forensic. it is the same sort of evidence they send people to jail on. it is computer dna. it is indisputable at this point. >> it is interesting you lay...

Intelligence assessment if the russians were behind that, the cia said it, homeland security said it as well, but what we have now is the fbi has detected malware which comes from russia, which comes from the russian government, even in the power grid malware it's the same stuff and we have to look at this as really as forensic, it's computer dna, it's the kind of dna you would take to court and get a conviction. i have a lot of faith in the fbi's ability to identify this and track it back to russia. so to say that the intelligence is just one opinion is absolutely wrong. i think -- i think th...