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The intent of Iran's cyber attack of Albania in July was to knock the Baltic nation back into the last century.

Responses, but what are capabilities just in general? i mean, i know iran's nuclear program was slowing down through, i think it was a cybervirus that was put out by somebody. i'm not sure if it was the u.s. or some other state players? i mean, how vulnerable is the u.s. electrical grid? what could actually be done to russia or to the united states? how bad can it get? >> let's break it down into a couple areas, anderson. first of all, russia is executing a cybercampaign. that means they're associating various battles to do a strategic objective. they are doing that. we are not right now. ther...

>> let's break it down into a couple areas, anderson. first of all, russia is executing a cybercampaign. that means they're associating various battles to do a strategic objective. they are doing that. we are not right now. there are two various elements of the cybercommunity. there's computer network defense and computer network attack. cnd, cna. it is either defending our own assets or going after someone else's. there are a variety of things that we can do, and as jim said earlier, it can do a stairstep approach.