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Murky a lot of people including us at "all in" decided to keep our distance. it did not help on the exact same day slate published the story "new york times" published this investigating donald trump, fbi sees no clear link to russia. now almost two years later with the mystery of whether the trump campaign criminally conspired with russia still unsolved, the new yorker is revisiting the story with an extensive investigation into that cryptic web traffic. consulting with experts who ruled out almost every benign explanation for context between a trump server and a russian bank. after a group o...

Back two years ago. i remember that piece. everyone's denying it. what did you learn, how was the story advanced in the two years since you've first wrote about it? >> well, it's only margin ally advanced. the lot of computer scientists were looking at this data in realtime and they said there's something raem funny here that this bank in moscow is communicating with the trump campaign. there was a whole series of suspicious, very circumstantial pieces of evidence and data that suggested that it was a covert communication channel. but it was just a question. and we've had this scandal, this bi...

Intrigued by it. and i thought like you could see a little bit, but not a lot. and then it went away. i mean, the story just kind of vanished and nobody picked it up. and it just -- i was kind of haunted by that story. and then what happened was after the election, a couple of democratic senators got the computer, got to the computer scientist and then brought him together with an investigator who was mentioned in my piece, dan jones and said can you guys get some computer scientists together and take some time and look at this again and see if you can reach any conclusions it. and they did, a...

A country to have journalists as talent ed as you and franklin foer writing about this because it's a difficult thing. and the storytelling ability around a story like this is very important because it's hard to get at the core of it unless you're great with words. that said, for me, the ah-ha moment in your reporting was some of the stuff about the "new york times" and what they chose to publish and not before the election, but also what you explained about what this might have been. you go through a lot of the scenarios about some of the innocuous explanations for what this could have been. ...

The trump organization and a major russian bank. the bank and the russian campaign neither report, so murky a lot of people including us at "all in" decided to keep our distance. it did not help on the exact same day slate published the story "new york times" published this investigating donald trump, fbi sees no clear link to russia. now almost two years later with the mystery of whether the trump campaign criminally conspired with russia still unsolved, the new yorker is revisiting the story with an extensive investigation into that cryptic web traffic. consulting with experts who ruled out ...