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Difficult. trump considers himself his own communications director. if he doesn't like the tenor of the news conference, he'll lash out at that person. you have to look ahead to november, this is going to be ugly. trump is going to lash out. why do i want to hop on board now, six months before that bloodbath and be part of the crew that's blamed for that? i'll just hang back and let somebody else take that job. >> the reality is there is no replacement for hope hicks in the trump universe. they'll hire someone to be the communications director. josh's point is well taken. it's not easy because...

Is exactly how trump was, angry, upset, furious. people i've talked to said they've never seen things this bad. it's stunning from the standpoint of we were accustomed to this six months ago, eight months ago, a year ago. john kelly was brought in to assert order and hierarchy and to tamp this stuff down. everybody i talked to last night said things are absolutely out of control. >> by the way, add to the fact that jared kushner is -- i don't know want to say it's an untenable position, but his job overseeing the middle east peace process, liaising with china and mexico, i'm not sure you can d...

If kelly goes, mcmaster might be -- well, that was my affinity. if that's the way we're going, i'm not here either. then he's gone. >> mattis and tillerson. >> if jeff sessions keeps getting beaten up, i don't need this, i'm going to leave, one after another, this is a problem. >> this is one problem the white house is going to confront right now in figuring out who will replace hope hicks. she came in basically because they couldn't find an attractive communications director. >> she's the fourth. >> fourth or fifth? >> jason miller. >> essentially she was a necessity because they couldn't get...

With the president. he was seen in the wings of the white house yesterday evening. kellyanne conway went on fox this morning and described him as somebody that's been an incredible asset to the president and the team. he is one of those killers on tv. do you think he's going to get the top coms job? >> it's posz zable. the question is, do they need another killer on television? kellyanne conway, no slouch herself. sean spicer, representing the administration and their style. the president big footing all of them, putting out his own tweets, statements and interviews and running communication h...