north korea. you have china saying, no, let s loosen the sanctions a bit. let s not be so tough and then you have the white house saying, we re going to, you know, pursue this maximum economic pressure and then you have the president tweeting these friendly things. so it s a very confused message. well, and as part of that confused message, of course, the signals around the world. thanks, dan, on that exclusive reporting of nbc today. now john kerry, former secretary of state and author of every day is extra joining us to talk about this and other issues. this is part one of a two-part interview we will be con cluzing tomorrow. let s talk about north korea first. the president praising kim jong-un. we are reporting today they re building more weapons. they re increasing the pace of their nuclear construction. just as the president is saying we have denuclearized. where s the impact of that? well, i mean, obviously, there s a huge confusion in what