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News show. he is more interested in news. it's not a comedy show in particular. what do you make of the idea that colbert may not be a fake newsman on comedy central, he might be per foiforming acts of journalism? >> my guest is he'll be more of a news show. he does it all well, but my guess is -- i don't mean to name-drop by saying that i know him, but he is a wonderful conversationalist. my guess is that those parts of the show will expand. and donald trump, is it, that he's having on? >> oh, yes, a couple weeks from now. >> yep. well, i can wait. >> you can wait. so you didn't watch him on ...

>> thank you. a reminder, the gop debate starts at 6:00 p.m. wednesday right here on cnn. coming up. biden, bush, clinton, trump, candidates running the talk show gauntlet, especially on stephen colbert's new show. before there was colbert there was cavett. late-night history repeating itself. dick cavett joins me next. staying in rhythm...