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>> absolutely. he's survived by his wife and young son. how are they doing? >> you know, they're hanging in there as well as can be expected. you know, katherine is a strong person. 9-year-old ethan, a great kid. he still hasn't come to grips with the fact that his dad will not be around, and that's a hard thing for us to see. >> it's hard for anyone to even hear about, not even knowing the trooper. there are so many questions right now about this situation, sergeant. the biggest one being, why? we just heard there from the colonel who said that daigle in his con trfrontation with the trooper ...

Grief and sorrow that they lost a comrade, but guilt that they couldn't do more, that there was something they left undone. and they carried that. and we're just beginning to learn to recognize this as a moral injury and to find new ways to treat it, which i think there's some interesting work being done that i've written about quite extensively. >> yes, you have. and david, thank you for the writing, of course. colonel jack, thank you for your service. and it's an honor, always, to sit beside you for these minutes. thank you, sir. well, you can certainly watch, and should, watch the medal o...