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President knows this. he's at root a political pragmatist. he gets a lot of criticism and credit for being a high minded id log. in a way he's a pragmatist. he knows nothing is going to happen here. i thought the clip you pulled was great. he mentions the 11 senator. we all know one of them is john mccain who was his opponent in 2008. the guy who started comprehensive immigration reform with ted kennedy, saw what that did to him, now is running an ad complete the dang fence. i do think the ark of john mccain on the issue in many ways is the arc of the issue politically. people thought let's ge...

>> eric: time for "sunday house call" and usually sitting right here, next to us, is dr. isadore rosenfeld. but he is in jerusalem, this morning. dr. rosenfeld is the rossi distinguished professor of clinical medicine -- go ahead, doctor, how are you, good morning. >> you are wrong. eric, you made a mistake. >> jamie: already. >> it is not this morning, it is this afternoon, it is 5:30 in the afternoon. check your clock. >> eric: why are you in jerusalem today? >> well, i am having the pleasure of getting the con vo -- giving the convocation address to the graduating medical students at tel av...