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Forms of rape. it's because like you said it comes out of a whole line of thought that women will often falsely claim rape. you mentioned john wilky, the latest -- in 1999 wrote this piece how real rape doesn't result in concept, wrote that when pro lifers talk about rape, they should always talk about assault rape or forcible rape. >> right. >> and he made two distinctions between statutory rape and between the many cases in which women will also in the many cases in which women claim rape when they are pregnant and don't want to be. >> a really powerful, amazing piece, people should read it,...

That narrowed rape to forcible rape. that excludes statutory rape, excludes rape by threat or coercion. that doesn't involve, you know, real physical force. it is really behind where the law -- the law has advanced beyond that, so i'd like to have your thoughts on why this compassion for some of your member members did not extend to the full range of rape victims, but only the akin promoted and paul ryan promoted division. >> the original language did not include that definition. i think it was a political calculation by national right to life to gin up the base and get pro lifers more to talk...

But let's remember, i'm the romney/ryan ticket, and the president makes policy. and the future president, mitt romney has exceptions for rape, incest, life of the mother and a vast improvement of where we are right now. >> the methods of concept this is the moral reasoning and heart. >> they said the method of cob concept. >> that at least gets the biology right. an improvement over todd akin. that to me is the argument for no exception. that is the argument of the republicans right now, right? >> i've had arguments with anti abortion activists before, where one of the things that strikes me, ...

Of a woman has been raped. >> in the best face you can put on this, is that maybe he cannot quite come to terms with the cruel implications of his position. you know, he kind of does not want to face what it is that he's kind of forcing on rape victims. that to me -- because in a way, if you do accept it, if you do accept the booiiology, that you accept that women regularly become pregnant because of rape, how do you explain to those women that you are going to force them, against their will, to carry that pregnancy to term? >> right, i'lly it you. here is paul ryan asked about that on thursda...