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Generational statement and make the turn, he has to say no. he has to stand up to big oil and show the american people that big oil doesn't get all it wants. he has to protect the aquifer. he has to keep the town of mayflower, arkansas in mind when he is making this decision. there is another thing to take under consideration in this part of the country if we look at the map. where is the next pipeline going to go? if they have the pipeline approved and the keystone comes over the aquifer, what other pipeline will be stopped in america? this would set a precedent because everybody would say, o...

We have his voice making that threat. the governor's voice supporting that threat. we have the state senator's voice making that threat. this is a direct statement. >> why would it take the nlrb a long time to make the decision? >> i think the nlrb is cautious no matter who is sitting at the board. they look at precedent. they look at history and look at the witnesses and they go through it. if you have a labor board that is half fair, they womill come the realization that corker does it to influence the outcome of the vote. >> if he is not challenged, i don't know where it will end. it sets a...

Constitutional issues involved here. there is a lot of stuff that has to be unpacked on this if you are going to make concisive decision on this. >> this is an proposal to take some of the most toxic and corrosive oil from canada and build the pipeline through 1,000 miles of farms and ranches all the way to the gulf. you brought up the mayflower spill. this is heavier and it would be shipped under intense pressure. the average car tire is under a pressure of about 30 pounds per square inch. the best example we have of a

Pits in alberta. we need to leave it there. >> all right. michael, we highlighted the issue in mayflower, arkansas, that spill. what if that happened over the aquifer? >> the impact would be enormous. ed, let me take a second to applaud your change of heart on this. it takes a lot of courage for someone to take a step back and look at the facts and talk to real people about the impacts of this decision. >> i appreciate that. you are very kind. this is not about me. this is about the 65% of the people in this country who want this. i was in there. i do believe that the lack of media coverage on...

Keystone energy project. >> the keystone pipeline would create thousands of jobs. >> the jobs will move the needle, essentially, although the permanent jobs will be about 50. >> the people have not earned the right to use our land. >> one spill. >> you would not be able to drink it. >> the dirtiest oil on the planet. >> if there is a crack or leak. >> contaminated. >> when do we want it? >> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. when i first came to msnbc five years ago, it was the health care debate. we did a story on the public option. i wanted it. i believed in it. this is an every ...