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>> that's what cnn reported in april of 2016. excuse me, 2017. and that's also what "the new york times" previously reported in april of 2017. so all of a sudden now they're trying to walk back that genesis of this investigation and switch it to papadopoulos. if they'd really believed that national security was at risk or there was some collusion -- >> i'll double check this, professor, but i don't believe that we reported that that was the basis for -- for this, but i'll double check it. >> actually, you do. i looked at it today. i believe it's april 17th of 2017. >> i'll look it up and i app...

If they'd really believed that national security was at risk or there was some collusion -- >> i'll double check this, professor, but i don't believe that we reported that that was the basis for -- for this, but i'll double check it. >> actually, you do. i looked at it today. i believe it's april 17th of 2017. >> i'll look it up and i appreciate that. john dean, just quickly before we go, i mean, do you believe this investigation is in its conclusion phase, as the president's attorneys seem to be indicating? >> no, i don't. i don't. i think it's very early in the investigation still. we know t...