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And then they said executive privilege. and then they said some of them are before the inauguration. the republicans are not helping us. you got to understand that. they are not helping. we cannot come to a conclusion here and get the documents, then they'll have to be subpoenas. >> michael isikoff, where is this heading? >> well, first of all, glen fine, the acting defense department inspector general is one of the most experienced, widely respected inspectors general in the government. he was for years at the justice department. did lots of hard-hitting reports. he knows how to do serious in...

>> michael isikoff, where is this heading? >> well, first of all, glen fine, the acting defense department inspector general is one of the most exrice widely respected inspectors general in the government. he was for years at the justice department. did lots of hard-hitting reports. he knows how to do serious investigations. and i would be surprised. based on the evidence that we have now, i would be very surprised if this did not end up in at least a criminal referral to the justice department, saying, look, even if fine doesn't reach the conclusion a crime was committed, there is enough prim...