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Now a bipartisan security has 13 days left to hammer out a proposal. that could come down to how they define what a wall is. >> i would love to spend money on what i call a small wall rather than a concrete edifice. we cannot protect the border with concrete. >> smart wall, slats or peaches. president trump tween et this, let's call them walls from now on and stop playing political games. >> nancy pelosi remains steadfast. >> if they come out with a bipartisan consensus, yeah. >> there will not be any wall money in the legislation. >> president trump tipped his

I think he was one of your students. i know he has a question for you here, congressman. >> i hope onhas recovered by now. >> that's the thing, congressman, it was a b minus and maybe david gave me this question so i can have participation points and you can retroactively pull me up to that b. set aside the idea of a concrete edifice. do you believe, based on what you know now, that the 654 miles of fencing that have been built are sufficient or do you think any more are justified? >> i don't have a technical judgment about what shape every mile of that fence is in. what i do know is that ther...

Appetite for wall money? nancy pelosi said trump will not get the wall. >> he won get the wall that he talks about all the time. will we support more bore are secure security on what experts thinking will work? i think yes. there's a weird obsession about this big concrete edifice. but what's really damaging about this, look, i have friends who have lost kids to opioids. don't tell those families -- this is what the president is doing. don't tell those families that building a wall is going to stop those terrible deaths from occurring. that's not going to stop it.

Barrier of what i like to call a concrete edifice when if you are really about securing the border. let's listen to the experts. i have been talking about the smart wall. if you indulge me, i said i want to see a wall so high we can use drones and you would never get over it. so you can use x-ray equipment and not get around it. so deep that you can use sensors to keep anybody from tunnelling under it. to me, how we accomplish that requires technology, not concrete barriers. that's where most democrats are. >> the president has backed off the concrete barrier. the president no longer calls it ...

Do we just have a wall, what constitutes a wall? i've been talking about a smart wall. i've been talking about a combination of barriers, a smart wall using drones, sensors, x-ray equipment. i've been talking about opening up, retro fitting our points of entry and requiring all asylum seekers to come through those ports of entry and be sure they are welcoming when they get there. >> how can congratulations give on the wall when nancy pelosi has laid down the marker that a wall is, quote, immoral. do you agree with her that a wall is immoral? >> she was talking about a concrete edifice. i've ta...