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The actual concrete structure will remain. it's never really been tested. this is all going to be a big test. as you noted the people who decided to stay behind, well, the city manager is only guesstimating because they don't go out and do a count but he estimates with 25,000 people here there's going to be a lot of people who are going to find themselves in a really dicey situation today and maybe wondering maybe they should have left. of course, with the bridges closed off the barrier island now all three bridges it's not going to be something that they can do here at the last minute. >> all...

Very far, a concrete structure. if i did need to go there, i could. i rigged this car to feel safe enough, not from storm surge. if there's storm surge, i'm not -- the car does not float, of course. but i feel like i know the route back to my safe spot and i can get there with no issues with storm surge. there's really no -- if anybody comes into a hurricane and says 100% they know what they're doing, they're not going to get hurt, that's the bad attitude. mother nature is number one. you just have to respect her and heed the warnings when we're telling people about them. that's the good thing...

Don't think this administration is focused on realizing that they have the authority to stop this practice. this practice of separate iing s from their parents. it's something that shouldn't happen. the reality is this is a si symptom. the larger problem is is immigration system is broken and in countries like el -- el salvador and nicaragua, we have root causes causing this migration. i think building a 30-foot high concrete structure from sea to shining sea is not good border security. we should have operational control of the border. we don't. so we need to be draying all these thing. i thi...

Passing legislation to say you shouldn't be ripping kids out of their mommys' arms. >> why does this administration think this policy is good for them? >> i don't know is the short answer, katy. this is not a new problem. this is a problem that we've seen in previous administrations, something that we should have been prepared for. there's alternatives to detention. this is an outcome from a larger problem. we should be working well salvador and nicaragua and honduras addressing some of the root causes in those countries that's causing this migration to come up here. we should be helping them ...

Within the administration. on the ground, in el paso. there's a lot of people that didn't know what it was, indeed, going on at this one facility and knew even less about the policies that were -- that were generated this kind of behavior. and ultimately, you know, what we need to be doing to secure our border. it is 2018. we don't have operational control of our border. but we shouldn't use a fourth century tool like a 30-foot high concrete structure and tent cities to solve a 21st century problem. we need additional immigration judges in order to apply consequences to people that are violati...