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For "the new york times." break this down for us. what exactly did these e-mails reveal? >> sure. thanks for having me. so new e-mails that came out over the weekend showed that there was even more extensive conversations, communications, discussions both policy and professional between mr. hart, the lobbyist as you say whose wife owned the condo that mr. pruitt rented for $50 a night when he was there. and the epa then previously known. these were overwhelmingly e-mails between mr. hart and mr. pruitt's chief of staff ryan jackson. and they spanned from policies about refrigerant chemicals to...

That scott pruitt is facing? >> he speaks directly to his base. if you look at people who have been ousted, they don't resonate with the president's base. as you have heard me say consistently on your broadcast and others, this president is 100% focused on re-election. this is a president that's looking to not expand the base because he cannot. he's looking to suppress the votes. he wants less people to come to the polls. the way you do that is by demoralizing the competition and by keeping people like scott pruitt, you demoralize people that are on the fence. those 33% of irnd pents who may o...