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Counts upon which the jury has been able to reach a decision. so for mueller and the special counsel's team, if there are convictions on those counts, that would be a victory. as chuck says, all of the conduct manafort has been engaging in will be relevant conduct that the judge will consider in fashioning the sentence when they reach the sentencing point in the case. and so the important thing for federal prosecutors will be to get some counts of conviction. it's not necessary to have conviction on all counts. in fact, in a complicated case like in, it's relatively rare to see a jury come bac...

The president. separate and apart from mr. manafort, i think what michael cohen has to share relating to donald trump is going to be very, very damaging. and i'm going to hold true to my predictions that i made in the past. i don't think this president is going to serve out his term. >> elise? >> that's a lot. so the cooperating part doesn't mean that much. you think this isn't that much out of the ordinary, that there's not some sign of immediate cooperation. >> i know for a fact there's cooperation going on. whether it's in the documents or whether he asserts it or not, that doesn't mean any...

Front of mueller's investigators. and cohen, having worked for the family, if you take comey's analysis that the family had a special mob-like meaning, could be someone who really does seal the fate of people in the family. >> he was the lawyer for the family. you're exactly right. and so i think that there's probably lots of stuff that michael cohen knows that the southern district of new york wants. and now it's a question of whether or not cohen is willing to give it all and give it truthfully. again, if he is, a lot of folks are going to have a restless night. >> don't go anywhere. we have...

So the existence of this plea deal has got to be very good news for president trump. let's see the documents. i just can't wait to see the documents. [ overlapping speakers ] >> let me ask you too, rick, to weigh in on the president's anxiety. the fact that cohen pleading guilty stands in contrast to what the president sees in manafort as someone standing strong. i was told that manafort, at this hour, everything is reality tv for this president, manafort is winning the pardon contest. listen, this is the guy we're all trying to cover. if it's a contest between cohen and manafort, manafort is ...

Criminal information. that's like an indictment except that manafort is not contesting it being filed. in that information, the special counsel outlined a host of charges, essentially all the conduct manafort's been charged with in virginia and washington, d.c., money laundering, bank fraud, tax fraud, witness tampering, obstruction of justice. then at the end it says essentially that he's pleading guilty to two charges, conspiracy to defraud the united states and obstruction of justice as you said, but he's going to have to admit to all that other conduct in court at 11:00 a.m. behind me. tha...