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>> i think it's kind of a footnote, but because roger stone has spent his entire life making himself into a very colorful character, it's really hard. you can't avoid cutting in to put this piece of breaking news out. he was one of the president's confidants, flashy dresser -- howard: yeah. >> -- self-made dirty trickster -- howard: self-promoter, yeah. >> you can't possibly avoid that, yes. howard: stone's defense described him as an exaggerator when he claimed to be a conduit e between wikileaks and the trump circle. but since he was convicted of lying, the media can't turn around and say, w...

Footnote to that investigation? >> i think it's kind of a footnote, but because roger stone has spent his entire life making himself into a very colorful character, it's really hard. you can't avoid cutting in to put this piece of breaking news out. he was one of the president's confidants, flashy dresser -- howard: yeah. >> -- self-made dirty trickster -- howard: self-promoter, yeah. >> you can't possibly avoid that, yes. howard: stone's defense described him as an exaggerator when he claimed to be a conduit e between wikileaks and the trump circle. but since he was convicted of lying, the me...