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Still talking about it now. that's what led him to the travel network, to cnn, and "parts unknown." >> the savory meat. >> "parts unknown" started on cnn in 2013 and it was like a bolt of lightning. >> the give of life, sticky rice. >> i said, anthony bourdain on cnn, what the hell is that about, right. i didn't quite get it at first. i was like, we don't do, that's not what cnn does. and he did it, and i got it. the guy is genius. it's brilliant. >> have you eaten yet or have you had rice? >> both. really means have you eaten rice yet, but really means, how's it going. >> i feel he was a bett...

>> cheese, god, the cheese. >> i got to tell you, i don't care how many naked breasts are on that beach right now, that is much more exciting. look at it, its beautiful. >> he was a great chef, then he had the this unique ability to obviously eat very obscure remote different kinds of food, but he also liked all the foods that all of us loved. he could have a hot dog and speak about that for half an hour. >> as i've gotten older i'm moving more and more away from fine dining, let's put it that way, and towards those foods and meal that is make me happy. food that i can eat with my hands. home ...

>> his stories wasn't about food. food was a conduit it drew you in. once it drew you in it was about the experience, connection and interactions with people. >> it was the obama white house who reached out to cnn, and i put them in touch with bourdain. they wanted -- that's who anthony bourdain was, obama wanted to go have food with him, not the other way around. >> anthony's point was, i didn't want some fancy state dinner, it's got to be the scooter and the whole thing. and he got it his way. >> how you liking vietnam? >> love it. >> anthony said for him, while the secret service were, you ...

Would produce. i actually end up taking trips to places he had been because -- i went tanjeera after he took a trip there, i thought, wow that was interesting because i wanted to see what he saw. >> one day, tony and i were sitting off stage waiting for something to happen. he looked at me and asked, what are you about, what is your passion? >> and i said, fighting. i love to fight. and his eyes -- i remember he had these hooded eyes -- and he recently found gjj. and he loved it so much. >> every morning, 7:00 a.m. i'm here. for the next hour or two hours or sometimes more, i'm just getting cr...

Heaven itself. >> cheese, god, the cheese. >> i got to tell you, i don't care how many naked breasts are on that beach right now, that is much more exciting. look at it, its beautiful. >> he was a great chef, then he had the this unique ability to obviously eat very obscure remote different kinds of food, but he also liked all the foods that all of us loved. he could have a hot dog and speak about that for half an hour. >> as i've gotten older i'm moving more and more away from fine dining, let's put it that way, and towards those foods and meal that is make me happy. food that i can maeat wit...