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Because as a manager, there was no issue with his appointees. he knew how to govern. he was a governor of arkansas. the difference here and it's a fundamental one, two years in, president trump still treats government like business and it's not analogous. and congress is not a compliant board of directors that will rubber stamp your selections for these key confirmable posts. >> and what does it mean in a deeper level, chris, how this year looks? because i just think of this as such a pivotal year with the actual structural political positions of power now switched or changed in washington and...

President clinton, when he was under the spotlight of impeachment, which started in the house, and you had the senate trial, he still did not have. what was different though, is that people did not leave the administration. there was not a mass exodus. the appointees, cabinet members, as disappointed as they were to find out they were lied to or misled by president clinton stuck around, because as a manager there was no issue with appointees. he knew how to govern. he was a governor of arkansas. the difference here, and it's a fundamental one, is that two years in president trump still treats ...

Administration. >> well, that is true. now, this is not unique to the trump white house. president clinton, when he was under the spotlight of impeachment, which started in the house, and you had the senate trial, he still did not have. what was different though, is that people did not leave the administration. there was not a mass exodus. the appointees, cabinet members, as disappointed as they were to find out they were lied to or misled by president clinton stuck around, because as a manager there was no issue with appointees. he knew how to govern. he was a governor of arkansas. the differ...