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the minister of humanitarian affairs told journalists that more than 1.3 million people had been displaced in the worst now on bbc news, it's hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i'm stephen sackur. in the increasingly overt struggle between western liberal democracy and authoritarianism, hong kong's position is unique. it is chinese sovereign territory granted special autonomous status under a handover deal done with britain. many hong kongers hoped that deal would guarantee theirfreedoms, but those hopes have been crushed. my guest is ted hui, a hong kong pro—democracy politician exile...

my guest is ted hui, a hong kong pro—democracy politician exiled in australia and convicted in absentia by a hong kong court. has beijing neutralised hong kong's dissenters? thank you. my pleasure to talk to you. you, of course, arejoining me from australia because you fled from your home, from hong kong, in late 2021, and you said you left with a very heavy heart. did you also leave with a sense of defeat? i don't, because... it's common that people might think that way. it's like an escapist guilt. but as long as i'm still fighting, as long as i'm still speaking up for hong kong'...

You must have known that your tactics, the direct confrontation approach, was going to lead to big trouble. yeah. why did i do that? because... i haven't spent too long in the legislature, in my parliament. i spent only four years, serving forfour years. but then i felt immediately that every moment i stood up in the chamber, in the parliament, speaking towards speaker, it's like endorsing the regime, the very undemocratic regime. so to me, it's more meaningful to march with the people in the street. i felt the most powerful and most glorious moments being the representative of the people. i k...

>> it starts at the top, jason. starts at the top. this is donald trump who took some time out of his big boy trip abroad to make comments about gianforte. take a listen. going one step below that, less listen to the various republicans who refuse to reject gianforte even after he assaulted the reporter. had the head of the national republican campaign committees, the chair, said from what i know for greg gianforte, this is totally out of character. charlie dent saying, he was charged we don't know the facts. franks from arizona, the left has intense confrontation approach. if he wins, he'll h...

So everything seems very situation am. but this antagonistic relationship trump has with reporters, i don't think that's going away. i think the conservative base is going to continue to have that it's been like that for quite sometime. it's just stronger. >> it starts at the top, jason. starts at the top. this is donald trump who took some time out of his big boy trip abroad to make comments about gianforte. take a listen. going one step below that, less listen to the various republicans who refuse to reject gianforte even after he assaulted the reporter. had the head of the national republic...