Step up to a degree. i thought the plan leaks that we saw this week were at least positive in that regard. this is a massive national need, the 65,000 bridges, the toxic water, the congested roadways, the deteriorated airports, the congested seaports. this is a matter of national competitiveness and there's a lot at stake, jobs and opportunity for communities to be competitive economically. we've got to get this done. >> okay. >> i'm pleased that the administration is advancing and the democrats are -- will be negotiating a good plan. that's my hope. >> former hud secretary henry cisneros, tha...