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Everyone should be vaccinated, and you should get boosted if you can. and maybe test the day of. how do you think about it? >> well, the situation is, and let's just take a scenario. you have a family setting. you're vaccinated. your family members are vaccinated. and even if the children who are yet too young to get vaccinated, go have an enjoyable thanksgiving in your home. you don't need to wear a mask. the situation is that when you are outside in indoor congregant settings where you do not know the vaccine status of people, then you should be wearing a mask. if you're in a situation where...

Of entry, and must be placed in congregant settings, which, um, as i think we all understand, precipitate or could precipitate a significant spread of the disease. the system is not built for that in a covid environment where isolation is required if, um, one is going to follow the medical protocols. ainsley: let's break that down for you, one in five of them are ill. steve: if you believe that number. brian: they might not have fevers. they just could have bad achilles tendons. but, here is the thing. whether a is he saying is, he has to justify title 42 to democrats who think it's cool. and ...

And down. on a political question, i think the biggest failing of the administration in my view was a lack of consistency in terms of how they approached the pandemic. i think there was a view that took hold over time that uncontrolled spread was inevitable and we couldn't intervene with policy to mitigate the spread, so policy really wasn't a solution. i think that was wrong. i think there were things we could do, if we could galvanize the public behind action to slow the spread, buy us more time. things like encouraging the use of masks, encouraging people to get vaccinated once the vaccines...

That's the solution. >> reporter: but after labor day weekend saw big crowds and thousands packed into football stadiums, health officials are bracing for more outbreaks. >> i don't think it's smart. i think when you're dealing particularly, you know, outdoors is always better than indoors, but even when you have such a congregant setting of people close together, first, you should be vaccinated and when you do have congregant settings, particularly indoors, you should be wearing a mask. >> reporter: the country now seeing nearly four times the number of covid cases and double the number of ho...

>> no, i don't think it's smart. i think when you're dealing particularly, you know, outdoors is always better than indoors, but even when you have such a congregant setting of people close together, first, you should be vaccinated and when you do have congregant settings, particularly indoors, you should wear a mask. >> good advice, dr. fauci. let's hope more folks listen to it. thank you so much for taking the time this morning. >> thank you for having me, jim. president biden is heading to new york and new jersey to see the catastrophic damage inflicted by ida. one of the mayors from the ...